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Why Blood Elves are not getting any new lore in the foreseeable future.
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Post by
Behelich
Before I start, I would like to acknowledge the fact that I am biased, pro-blood elves and con-Forsaken and Garrosh Hellscream. Also, I choose to believe that the canonical ending to the Quel'Delar quest chain is the blade being restored by blood elf, and one capable of wielding swords to boot.
I know for a fact that, like me, many people are aggravated by the fact that Cataclysm seems to have no new lore in stock for the butt of oh so many gender confusion jokes, which also happens to be one of the most badass races in the Horde's roster - the blood elves. This expansion mainly focused (Horde-side) on the Forsaken going down, down, down the slippery path to villainy, so close to the event horizon their rotten clothes are already flapping, on the trigger-happy warchief with his orc supremacy doctrine and on the tensions within the faction their actions have brought. It is well-known that Garrosh is not above stating in no uncertain terms in a fit of rage that his Horde - aka, first and foremost, the biggest, the most efficient and brutal war machine in the world of today - does not need the 'effeminate' elves.
What son of Hellscream does not seem to realize is that the Horde needs Quel'Thalas now more than the elves need their ragtag bunch of allies. Over the course of two expansions, I think all but two problems of the enchanted lands have been solved - namely, the presence of the Dead Scar (while we're at it, even though the game offers us the thought that it is incurable, I say we be optimistic and hope that this opinion was an honest miscalculation) and the cleft between the high elves and the blood elves. The rest? Scourge presence in Quel'Thalas was wiped out thoroughly, and with Arthas dead, for the time being the Scourge poses no immediate large-scale threat. Ditto for the Amani trolls (while it pains me to see just what Zul'jin was reduced to, at least the elves have gotten rid of that green thorn in their side), and though you may point out the Zandali incursion, it was curbed before any serious harm could be brought to Quel'Thalas - by combined efforts of the high elves and blood elves, no less (now, I in no way mean to diminish Vol'jin's role in handling the Zandali issue - his actions helped removing the problem right after it presented itself. What would happen without him, I think, is the Amani raiding the elves several times before getting destroyed all the same, in the end).
Even the Sunwell was restored, more powerful than before, not only the source of arcane but also that of the Holy Light, blessed by the Naaru. While I loathe how they handled one of my most favorite characters from the Frozen Throne, prince Kael'Thas, with him finally dead for good the elves can rally behind Lor'themar (despite obvious 'Who?' jokes that will inevitably spring, he proved to be a competent and charismatic leader) and the rest of the leadership, including whomsoever restored Quel'Delar (another little point that seemingly brought the high elves and the blood elves closer).
While there certainly are issues that the elves have to deal with (for starters, the conflict between the magisters/the blood knights/the rangers), it is not something that can be reasonably addressed in a MMORPG. From gameplay point of view, their story is pretty much told - they rose from the ashes, came through all the troubles to where they are now, and, more or less, are prospering. And the only reason they do not leave the Horde like they did with the Alliance back before the Third War is, well, they learned from their mistakes, and they are much less likely to betray those who helped them so much in the start.
Post by
Atik
Even if we say the Dead Scar can be healed, it will certainly take YEARS. And, really, there isn't anything the Elves or the rest of the Horde can do to help the process along; that bit is purely in nature's hands now.
Furthermore, I still fail to see what is to complain about the Forsaken lore we've gotten. I honestly liked all of it; raising the dead and bolstering their ranks for the first time ever? Badass, and much needed. Finally getting a good look into Sylvannas' mindset? Amazing, and extremely interesting. Getting to use that Blight we have been helping to make since VANILLA? YES PLEASE! (I literally cheered during the Wrathgate cutscene when we first saw it in action, BTW.)
From the undead questing zones in Cataclysm, we have clearly seen that the Forsaken and the Blood Elves are still just as stalwart allies as ever. True, we don't see tons of Blood Elves hanging around, but the few we do see are more numerous than other races, and very clearly allies of the Forsaken.
And on top of that? I don't see the Blood Elves and Forsaken turning their backs on each other anytime soon. Ghostlands, all the way back in BC, did a damn good job setting them up as tight, and ready yo hold Northern EK; weather for the Horde, or themselves.
In truth, we'll probably see more about what the Blood Elves are up to eventually. Metzen just needs to get over Thrall, and then WoW will more than likely pass the development ball around to other races. Trolls, Tauren, Blood Elves, and Draenei have all gone without much recent time with said ball, but they'll get it eventually.
Post by
Rankkor
Before I start, I would like to acknowledge the fact that I am biased, pro-blood elves and con-Forsaken and Garrosh Hellscream. Also, I choose to believe that the canonical ending to the Quel'Delar quest chain is the blade being restored by blood elf, and one capable of wielding swords to boot.
/High-five
Anar'alah belore my compatriot.
I do believe the canonical ending of the quel'delar quest is that a BLOOD ELF (and one capable of using swords) was the one to rebuild it.
Good points all in all, but you missed something.
There is another problem that the blood elves face, asides from the dead scar, and the division between their people. Their magical addiction.
Sure, they got the well to sate it, but what fell once, could fall again, and as shown on the quel'delar quest, they are struggling to not depend on the well. They still need to regain their former glory, and the first step to do that, is that magic must be a tool, not a crutch. As long as they depend on magic, they depend on the horde to defend their source of magic, lest they become forced to drain unnatural sources to sate their hunger.
Something as big as the sunwell can't be defended by them alone, even if by some miracle the alliance does not attack it, other enemies could. As long as the blood elves are a part of the horde, they have their backing in case the sunwell is under attack again. Because I somewhat doubt the shattered sun is still there (In fact they are not, on the quel'delar quest its shown how the entire place was full of silvermoon guards)
Cataclysm did added a little snip of lore to us, even if it was meager crumbs. The reliquary. Dig up the past, in order to empower our future. I do hope the reliquary plays a larger role with the lorewalkers and archaeology in the future. If there's a seed of future lore, that's the one.
If only Lady Liandrin would go back into the fold =( I miss her so much T_T This game needs Action Ladies that aren't cheerleaders (Jaina) or Psychopaths (Sylvannas)
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229054
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Post by
morginar
i might add that half of silvermoon is still in ruins...
think it is about time to retake silvermoon.
(and why can't i use flying mounts there?)
Post by
127599
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Post by
Rankkor
(and why can't i use flying mounts there?)
It wasn't built for flying mounts and Blizzard doesn't want to use resources yet to fix it.
Also if they ever do take over the ruins again it will be long overdue.
I have no idea why it hasn't been done (Ok flying mounts are a no-go, but reclaim the ruins)
There is no reason lore-wise why the blood elves would not be able to retake them. I mean, the only foes still clinging to it are barely crack-pots who can barely even stand.
Post by
Atik
(and why can't i use flying mounts there?)
It wasn't built for flying mounts and Blizzard doesn't want to use resources yet to fix it.
Also if they ever do take over the ruins again it will be long overdue.
I have no idea why it hasn't been done (Ok flying mounts are a no-go, but reclaim the ruins)
There is no reason lore-wise why the blood elves would not be able to retake them. I mean, the only foes still clinging to it are barely crack-pots who can barely even stand.
Maybe they're just lazy?
Post by
Levarus
The Tauren should be the strongest right now, Mulgore has been untouched for a freaking millenia, except for the Bristleback and Venture Co. which are a complete joke. Plus, Tauren are freaking huge. One Tauren could probably beat the crap out of twenty blood elves before being even harmed. Go Tauren!
Post by
Behelich
(and why can't i use flying mounts there?)
It wasn't built for flying mounts and Blizzard doesn't want to use resources yet to fix it.
Also if they ever do take over the ruins again it will be long overdue.
I have no idea why it hasn't been done (Ok flying mounts are a no-go, but reclaim the ruins)
There is no reason lore-wise why the blood elves would not be able to retake them. I mean, the only foes still clinging to it are barely crack-pots who can barely even stand.
Maybe they're just lazy?
Blizzard, not elves.
The Tauren should be the strongest right now, Mulgore has been untouched for a freaking millenia, except for the Bristleback and Venture Co. which are a complete joke. Plus, Tauren are freaking huge. One Tauren could probably beat the crap out of twenty blood elves before being even harmed. Go Tauren!
Is this some kind of a sick joke? Taurajo, anyone?
Post by
Levarus
Is this some kind of a sick joke? Taurajo, anyone?
The ancestors frown upon you, Blood Elf :(
Post by
RevengeUnicorn
I think people are being too butthurt about some jokes, I mean not everyone will find it humurous but we don't need to hear the complaining. All I've learned in my years of World of Warcraft is that people will moan about everything, even if it's a positive change. Why just a few months ago while I was in Goldshire, some female Draenei sat there talking about how fat Pandarens were, and how she hated them. How she was going to quit WoW because of Mists of Pandaria, and that we are pathetic and Blizzard could have done better. Nobody was really listening. Pandarens were here way before, I don't get why people are being so freaking butthurt.
Bloodelves are probably the most
attractive
race in all of Warcraft.
Bloodelves to me have no problem, though some people say they're 'addicted', pretty much I suppose.
Oh and then there's
Kael'thas
..
;)
Post by
Adamsm
Bloodelves are probably the most attractive race in all of Warcraft.Male wise, possibly. Female wise though? Sorry, but those tiny little twig women who look like they are going to tip over at any time are not that attractive to me.
Bloodelves to me have no problem, though some people say they're 'addicted', pretty much I suppose.Up until the Sunwell was re-ignited, they were suffering massive mana withdrawal and are addicted to consuming magic.
Oh and then there's Kael'thas.. Bad guy, who the Player Blood Elves see as a monster....
Post by
Atik
Pandarens were here way before, I don't get why people are being so freaking butthurt.
I never liked Pandarens, then or now.... So yeah.
Bloodelves are probably the most attractive race in all of Warcraft.
*cough*Draenei*cough*
Bloodelves to me have no problem, though some people say they're 'addicted', pretty much I suppose.
They were addicted to consuming magic after the destruction of the Sunwell. But that got fixed at the end of Burning Crusade, when the Sunwell was restored.
Oh and then there's Kael'thas..
Kael hasn't been around since BC... and was a Well-Intentioned Extremist for the most part. <.< >.>
All around, I don't see what you're getting at here.
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229054
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Post by
Behelich
The Tauren should be the strongest right now, Mulgore has been untouched for a freaking millenia, except for the Bristleback and Venture Co. which are a complete joke. Plus, Tauren are freaking huge. One Tauren could probably beat the crap out of twenty blood elves before being even harmed. Go Tauren!
They actually lived in the Barrens until recently.
IIRC, they nomadized between the Barrens and Mulgore when Thrall arrived to Kalimdor. Cairne said something about going west, to Mulgore with the caravan that Thrall helped to protect.
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229054
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Post by
Moriurya
Think about it; the elves have been pushed around rather heavily since they joined the Horde; their strong forces have been called to every battle and event, making their children, injured, and a few petty officials behind to defend what is rebuilt of the city. There currently isn't a big enough force in Quel'Thalas to properly take back what they lost and return to their former glory.
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470415
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Post by
Moriurya
Think about it; the elves have been pushed around rather heavily since they joined the Horde; their strong forces have been called to every battle and event, making their children, injured, and a few petty officials behind to defend what is rebuilt of the city. There currently isn't a big enough force in Quel'Thalas to properly take back what they lost and return to their former glory.
Please don't tell me you are trying to convince everyone that the
entire
population is in the Quel'Thalas army? That has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've heard.
No, I didn't say that at all.
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