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Comment by auryunderground

If you interact with her (even as a rogue), her rumor dialogue says:

Stay out of my way, "hero".

Once players have watched the cutscene for A Window to the Past, she has lore questions that can be asked of her:

<Ask for more information about her.>

What, like you don't remember "killing" me in the Deadmines?

Hah, I suppose... what am I to you but another boss of another "evil" organization that needs to be put down?

Nevermind my purpose. Nevermind my PEOPLE. I wanted to help them! The Westfall Sentinels who sent you would merely preserve the status quo!

<Vanessa sighs, and the anger drains out of her.>

It doesn't matter now. I made so many mistakes. I can't say I didn't deserve it.

Then, the Legion invaded. Everything changed.

( ) <Ask about her time fighting the Legion.>

...

...I've seen men do terrible things to one another. I've seen my people starve. I've seen my father killed. I've seen my own revolution fall apart at my feet.

The torture and pain the Legion sought to bring to our world... that was... something else entirely.

I saw many people die in those days. You can't come back from that the same person.

<Vanessa turns her head away and stares into the distance.>

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This question has a special response for rogues, but the Uncrowned questlines from Legion may be a requirement to receive it.

What, like you don't remember all our wonderful time together?

Hah! Fine, I'll play along.

YOU took MY seat as a Shadow of the Uncrowned, during the Legion Invasion. I challenged you for the position, and... well, I was having an off day. You won. That time. Once.

Whatever.

They decided I should work for- no, that you needed someone actually competent to help do your job. So I stuck around to do the heavy lifting for you.

<Vanessa suddenly pauses, then swallows hard.>

That was a lot of demons.

( ) <Ask about her time fighting the Legion.>

...

...I've seen men do terrible things to one another. I've seen my people starve. I've seen my father killed. I've seen my own revolution fall apart at my feet.

The torture and pain the Legion sought to bring to our world... that was... something else entirely.

I saw many people die in those days. You can't come back from that the same person.

<Vanessa turns her head away and stares into the distance.>

--
<Ask for more information about Shaw.

<Vanessa rolls her eyes.>

The Spymaster for the Crown has some principle, I'll give him that. The fact that he still hasn't arrested me means he can keep his word, at least.

We have an "arrangement". I keep the Defias on a short leash, and he doesn't go after us.

Luckily for him, I'm not that interested in leading my Brotherhood to murder and robbery anymore. If only the bulk of the Defias actually felt the same...

It's getting harder and harder to keep them from hurting innocent people.

--
<Ask for more information about the Defias Brotherhood.>

<Vanessa straightens slightly.>

The Defias Brotherhood are vigilantes fighting for the people of Westfall when no one else will.

At least... we should be. Many would call us bandits. In my father's time... I have to admit it was true. His righteousness turned quickly to vengeance and greed.

But that doesn't mean his anger wasn't justified. As long as there is suffering in Westfall, there will always be Defias. I tried to lead them to be a force for revolution and good. Now, I fear they are too used to the life of the bandit.

Comment by natsuru

The way they changed the pants... my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

Comment by baelmer

Anyone know if the daggers she is using are available in game?

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Vanessa VanCleef

This NPC can be found in Duskwood and Elwynn Forest .

Vanessa VanCleef

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